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CG tutorial 2.0 by Chiroyo CG tutorial 2.0 by Chiroyo
new and improved CG tutorial that employs the use of SAI.

WARNING GINORMOUS FILE >8O

finished picture: [link]

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MY GOD WHAT IS THAT BIG OPEN SPACE UP THERE?! I'll fix it if I'm not too lazy ^^'

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okay, well the number of favorites on this thing is getting a bit hectic for me, so I'm not going to go comment and say thank you for each one because I'm pretty behind on a bunch of pieces right now, so I'll just thank you all right now =3 I never thought it would get featured in manga academy, or get this many views 8O <is amazed>
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner May 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Your tutorial was very helpful and impressive to learn for coloring in SAI which I m first time using Sai and a tablet XP. Thanx alot for a very good tip of colouring in Sai.
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner May 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I'm happy that you found it helpful ;u; If you have any questions about anything, please feel free to ask
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner May 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Umm, I m sorry if I say this question unrelated to ur tutorial but is about drawing figures? I have a tough time drawing them and with guidance help from a few pals of mine. Sorry if I hassle u to much?
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner May 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Ah, sure. Drawing anatomy is not my strong point, exactly, but I will try my best to help :D What specifically do you want to ask about drawing figures?
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner May 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Umm basically everything and I m very bad at listening carefully? Sorry if I hassle to much
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner May 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It's not that you're hassling too much, but it's kinda hard to help if I don't know exactly where to start :'D How about you come up with some specific questions?
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PortableDrawer Featured By Owner May 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Argh, I m very sorry for being not to specific, which I got some problems at my end. So will I have problems really with hair style, body rigging and hands which I have troubling to know.

Sorry for my stupidness.
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner May 6, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh it's no problem, please don't apologize. You're not stupid D:
I think it may be easier to explain this in a livestream, where I can show you things visually instead of attempting to explain them. Would you be able to do that?
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darkside-ky Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Hi there, I'm wondering if you can help me. I have ZERO experience in Sai, I just know Photoshop. I'm a big fan of how :iconreiq: does his pinup women and how shiny their skin and other surfaces are.

Do you know any methods in Photoshop for doing such techniques? Or who I might ask?
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Hmm from looking at his work, I would say that it appears he just paints the highlights on with a soft, lower-opacity brush? Additionally, I think he may be using a tool similar to photoshop's dodge tool to make that "bright shiny" effect on the edges of his highlights and some of his lines. This sort of effect can usually be achieved by painting highlights with the dodge tool set alternatively between "midtones" and "highlights" (highlights will make it much brighter and whiter). This is just my take on this, however. If you want, you could probably ask him and I'm sure he'd be happy to answer. I'm not sure if this is exactly what you were looking for, in terms of an answer, and if it isn't, please feel free to elaborate or rephrase. I hope my answer was helpful ;u;
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darkside-ky Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
I've tried that technique you described, but it doesn't seem to have the same effect of "shaping" subject matter as it does his work.

That is to say, his techniques cause his compositions to look more three-dimensional, so I dunno what I'm missing exactly.
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Well generally in the making of things 3-dimensional, there are more than just highlights going into play, I think. Could you perhaps show me an example of your work that tries to use this? Three-dimensional often also relies on perspective and the presence of different parts of the body in different perspective planes, as well as the other shading aside from the highlights. Maybe you could elaborate on the "shaping" you're curious about?
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darkside-ky Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Okay for starters: [link]

The things I noticed most about Reiq's piece is that around the breasts and abdomen there is this almost exaggerated amount of shiny "depth". Like it's a latex surface. But not just that, if you look at the gauntlets around the hands and the metal plating around the hips, there's this sense that the light source is "guilded steel" besides. I'm at a loss as to how he does either of those methods for lighting. Besides the fact I have next to no idea how to draw natural breasts like he does, or erotic poses for that matter. :blush:

Anyways, if you look: [link]

My sense of depth tends to feel rushed and flat. Another example is this: [link] there's barely any shading done, just enough that it's obvious.

Here again: [link] I seem to have a better sense of glow than I do of shadows in that piece, but the way it's colored isn't very deep either. It doesn't "pop" out at you.

Also the fact I don't have a tablet to use and rely on a mouse instead seems to hinder my use of brushes in Photoshop, since I can't exactly use the "Pen Pressure" function. I want my brush strokes to start thin, then get thicker and go thin again (like natural strokes would). I would like help with this too, since all I seem to be able to do is get a brush to fade out instead of "fade in then out".
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012  Student Digital Artist
hmm...well. as for the latex surface, I think if you imagine this in a 3-D way, and the light source seems to be cast mostly from the top-down, but angled towards the front, then the light is hitting those areas the most harshly. To make it kind of latex-y, he's using kind of a "blob" of bright highlights instead of making it subtle, so it stands out and helps define the texture. I think to make the metal look more realistic, he adds "scratches" with a small brush of different shades of grey.
As for the breasts and poses, buddy, I'm a girl and I have no idea how to do either of those 8'D trololol.

Well yours just looks flatter because your coloring style mostly involves sharp, flat colors. The guy you're trying to imitate uses a lot of soft shading with brushes, and yours is kind of just flat colors with something that resembles cel-shading. I would be careful with the colors that you are using for shading. Rather than just using a darker/more saturated hue than the flat color for shading, try to use a color that is not only darker, but perhaps a slightly different color as well. (for example, when shading skin, don't just use a darker skin color, try using some pinkish tones too). In addition to that, try considering adding more context in the background rather than just a simple scheme of colors (I'm not too good at this myself, but yeah).

Ohhh you use a mouse? That's still quite impressive, though, for using a mouse :3 IF you can, I would invest in a small tablet, like maybe a wacom bamboo, though. You can't really do pen pressure with a mouse, squat unforunately D:
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queenofgoth Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011
okay...one q&a:

how do you CG something?
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I'm a little confused by your question o.o But if you wanted a written description, then my answer is sketch it, outline it, then color it in with different colors on different layers.
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queenofgoth Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2011
okay

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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2011  Student Digital Artist
^^; sorry if I couldn't answer your question very well...
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ChoCoFresa Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
super cooool!!!

thanks *o*
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2011  Student Digital Artist
oh mai o//o thank you very much :3
and for the favorite as well~
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ChoCoFresa Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
np :3
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Magedark9 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2010  Student Artisan Crafter
Very, very impressive!
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Thank you very much :3
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Guardy Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Whohoo!
This tut is awesome! It helped A LOT!
Really well explained, really good drawn... this tut really deserves all the views and faves ^-^

Oh... and there's a typo:
near the end you wrote "somes" instead of "comes" ^-^
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Thank you very much x3

ack, sometimes when I type fast I make stupid mistakes like that, xD sorry
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needsMOARshin Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2010
YOINK! xD Thanks Chio <3
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Hi Panchii :D
thanks for what though? xD
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needsMOARshin Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2010
Posting a neat tutorial that may help me suck less xDDDD
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2010  Student Digital Artist
I see, thank you then :)
I can tell you like Shin xD
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needsMOARshin Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2010
XDDDDD like only scratches the surface
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2010  Student Digital Artist
you needsMOARshin 8D
lol xD I'm sure there will never be enough words to describe how much moar shin you will be needing XD
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needsMOARshin Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2010
XD no there never will be hahahaha
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2010  Student Digital Artist
maybe I should do a Shin FLELE shell then...? xD
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mizz-izzy Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010
Your coloring is really nice, thanks for sharing this tutorial! :)
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010  Student Digital Artist
thank you :3
my coloring seems to be pretty much the only thing I'm good at ^^'
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Franzinimini Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010
this is so helpful for me! I'm still learning and stuff, most of my drawings are kind of ruined because of my lack of line-art skill xD Thank you so much for this tutorial
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010  Student Digital Artist
thank you for reading it :D glad it helps
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HanaXYuki Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010  Hobbyist
This is helpful, I'm going to try >_<
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2010  Student Digital Artist
please do :3 I'm glad you thought it was helpful ^^
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LeQueen Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010
Really nice tutorial! Your colouring is splendid. Its something that i need to really brush up on. ^^; Also an excellent job in reminding us that LineArt is just as important as the colouring itself. I totally agree!
However just like to point out some small things that can be improved on (me being the nosy perfectionist that i am, so feel free to ignore me when i get too nosy!)

The character's face shape in relation to her neck and body can be improved on. The head and neck area look oddly disjointed, even for a chibi character. Her shoulder proportion is also a tad bit odd, with one shoulder higher than the other at an irregular angle and her collar bones at a rather awkward position.

Well other than my nosy nitpicking (sry! :dummy:) everything else (especially the colouring! Man! I really should practise more...) Is gorgeous. Hopefully you'll find my comments helpful and continue to produce lovely artworks. =D
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Student Digital Artist
haha, thank you =3 I have always had problems with proportions, and probably always will >8O
thanks for taking the time to give such a long comment lol XD
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LeQueen Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010
Not a problem! I myself would always like to recieve observations from other artists, so i figured if i helped out other ppl maybe one fine day someone would do the same for me too! Lol. =D

Haha i was terrible with proportions too! Still having trouble in fact. But i suppose practising really helped and i'm planning to create a basic anatomy and proportions tutorial in the near future which (hopefully) anyone can understand. ^^;

In any case it was not a problem at all! It must have taken you WAY longer to make that tutorial than for me to type out a couple of simple observations. Great effort and keep it up! :meow:
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Student Digital Artist
hoping to see that tutorial in the future :D
thank you =3
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pollyestar Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice! I use the Gimp, but I think I can transfer the tutorial to that. Plus your art is just really good!
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Student Digital Artist
I've never tried Gimp before, but basically I think this applies to most drawing programs =D
thank you very much :D
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Synth-Nine Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
bravo, very nice
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Student Digital Artist
thank you~
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Synth-Nine Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
hey i was actually looking for something exactly like this, its perfect
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Chiroyo Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Student Digital Artist
I'm glad it's actually helpful 8D
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Superpluplush Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for sharing :D :glomp:
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